20 May 2008

Top 5 Reasons I hate Christian Fundamentalists

Last night I watched Dispatches on Channel 4. It showed a bunch of Christian fundamentalists trying to influence politicians in Britain. Shocking. Unfortunately, as usual, when they were really challenged on their beliefs and left speechless, instead of pushing on, the reporter allowed the question to go unanswered. The first one was how old did she think the world was? Did she believe it was the biblical suggestion of around 4,000 years and if so, how did she explain the hard facts of carbon dating & fossils? She responded by stuttering and then asking for the camera to be turned off. The second question was her real opinion about Islam. She called it a false religion and when asked if that meant she thinks Islam is the religion of the Devil, she turned her microphone off.

Why do reporters never say: No, hang on. I asked you a question. If you are so sure in your beliefs, you should be able to answer that. Surely a simple reporter can not challenge your faith so fundamentally that you have no answer to a really simple question?

But no. As usual, the answers went unchallenged.

Anyway, I believe it is not Muslim fundamentalism we should be afraid of (not that I ever was) but Christian fundamentalism. Christians have discovered the true power of PR and there is a massive amount of money available to them to push their cause. They use the argument that this (and the rest of Europe) is a Christian nation and hence their ideas are perfectly normal, right? Well no. And here is why.

1) They are hypocrites.

Yes, we all are, I know, but I do not claim to own the truth, they do. Examples: they keep screaming about 'the gay lobby' and how immoral groups are pushing their agenda. Erhm....how is trying to get in to government and lobbying parliamentarians not exactly the same? There is no difference, but for them, a lobby by someone they don't agree with is seen as 'shoving their agenda down our throats' but their own lobby is not at all exactly the same.

2) They pick and choose who to oppose(like everyone else) but say they don't

Kind of fits in with the above. Apparently they can decide which sin is worse than others and how each sin should be fought. Homosexuality is a sin they target viciously. I don't know why because I can think of many other sins that are actually harmful to people. Like pedophilia. Or adultery. In these case, innocent people are victims, not consenting adults. They oppose abortion and some of them think killing abortion doctors is OK because they anger God by...erhm....killing someone. Right. You either believe in the bible or you don't. You don't get to pick and choose and say: Well, we do not stone adulterers to death anymore in the 21st century but we can still kill gay people.

3) They are (gullible) cowards

When challenged on their beliefs, they simply walk away or refuse to answer, saying we just do not understand the word of God. Ever tried dicussing the fact that the bible has 2 stories of earth's creation (the Paradise Theory and the Primordial Soup Theory) and they will say there is nothing contradictory about them at all. Or ask them how come god says all children are innocent but those born in sin (out of wedlock etc.) are apparently not so innocent eventhough they haven't done anything wrong. Or ask them how they feel about the PROOF that the earth is millions of years old instead of the biblical few thousand years? You'll get a wary stare and you'll be told you are simply refusing to believe. I think that is cowardly. Why not enter a discussion with an open mind. Me, I just prefer to believe science, not fiction.

4) They want to impose their will on all of us

This is the most dangerous one of all. In the name of 'morals', they try to change things for everyone and impose their beliefs on everyone, even people who do not believe in their god. They want to ban abortion. Well, I want a woman's right to choose. So why not allow women who want that choice to have an abortion and if you, as a Christian, feel this should not be done, then you simply don't have one. if you feel gay people should not have equal rights, then don't work at a registry office where you may have to marry gay people. If you believe shops should not be open on Sunday, then stay in the house but let me get my shopping without bothering anyone.
I don't go out telling people they should all become gay because it will make them happier. Yet that is exactly what they do to the rest of the world. instead of leaving us in peace, they go out to tell everyone who is not like them only they know the truth. Arrogant bastards.

5) They claim anyone who disagrees with them does not have an open mind

The most hypocritical of all really. (In fact, I think, looking at the above, all 5 things say: HYPOCRITE in one way or another) I accept that some people do not like gay people. I accept some people think abortion is a sin. I have an open mind to others. That is not the same as agreeing with them and it does not involve telling others they are stupid, going to die, going to hell, should not be allowed civil rights or have their opinion heard. That is however exactly what evangelical christians do. If I tell them they have no right to attack me personally without knowing anything about me, if I tell them I do not believe in their god and that I think they are morally wrong, they tell us all that their opponents do not have an open mind. They put themselves in the position of a victim, trying to get sympathy.

So maybe this is my coming out. I am done with them. I hate them. I believe they are trying to overturn all that we have been fighting for. Freedom of speech, freedom of choice, freedom to live how we feel. I am so angry about it that I am even considering getting involved in some kind of politics to try and stop them.


  1. Hear, hear!

    Arrogant and despicable people. They have too much influence these days. If Jesus came down to earth again he would have a right fit.

  2. Um, where does the bible talk about Primordial Soup Theory? That is man's theory and not in the bible as far as I know. On the other hand I have to agree with everything else stated.

  3. I totally agree. Fundamentalists are a threat to civilisation, progress, peace and development, and I find their existence truly worrying :/

  4. I agree wholeheartedly, this dangerous and hypocritical group needs to be put down once and for all. I really do encourage you to get involved in some sort of political group to try and stop their relentless destruction of our rights.

  5. They have taken god to a place he does not want to be.

  6. As a recovered fundamentalist, I can attest first hand there is unyielding beliefs their opinions are from God, therefore they are perfect, and promoting violence to hasten the second coming is the work of God.

  7. I guess I'm in the minority here. I identify with the Fundamentalist movement. I do not however, identify with what the public associates with Fundamentalism; i.e.: The Westboro Baptist folks.

    The Fundamentalist movement started in 1878. I would urge any who is ignorant to read what the 14 points of the Niagara Creed of 1878 says.

    I see nowhere in it where it promotes violence.

    What I do see is this:

    1. The verbal, plenary inspiration of the Scriptures in the original manuscripts.
    2. The Trinity.
    3. The Creation of man, the Fall into sin, and total depravity.
    4. The universal transmission of spiritual death from Adam.
    5. The necessity of the new birth.
    6. Redemption by the blood of Christ.
    7. Salvation by faith alone in Christ.
    8. The assurance of salvation.
    9. The centrality of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures.
    10. The constitution of the true church by genuine believers.
    11. The personality of the Holy Spirit.
    12. The believer’s call to a holy life.
    13. The immediate passing of the souls of believers to be with Christ at death.
    14. The premillennial Second Coming of Christ.

    14 point creed of the Niagara Bible Conference of 1878

    Its just plain wrong for you guys to see the actions of one stupid group and associate others in the same class just because they belong to the same group.

    It reminds me of the line from "A Few Good Men":

    "Don't you dare lump me in with Jessup and Kendrick just because we wear the same uniform."

    Yes, I call myself a Fundamentalist, I also call myself a Baptist and a Calvinist. But you have no right to lump me in the same category as those hateful people from that other church.

    Would it be fair for me after witnessing what was done during the recent presidential election to say that because of "X" everybody who is "X" is the same?

    Would it be fair to say that because of the actions of the RCC during the Dark Ages, that all members of the RCC are just like that?

    That is exactly what is happening here. You guys see one group acting one way and automatically believe all others are just the same.